Saturday, October 07, 2006

The Russian bear growls!

Georgia looks very unlikely for a future wild east next summer.

Me and Taylor (and possibly Shiz) talked a while ago about visiting Georgia (and we don't mean America!). Georgia is in a mess at the moment, some say on the verge of civil war and there are shoot-outs between Russian troops and local militias at night. Problems have been exacerbated since the very pro-western, anti-Russian Saakashvili govt got in power in 2003 with hopes of joining the EU. Relations with Russia are at an all-time low and the Russian government has started deporting Georgians (and half of all Georgian males seem to be working in Russia illegally) from Moscow and St Petersburg. To be fair to the Russians though, why should they continually put up with a whole raft of illegal workers (who are only there to benefit themselves), paying no tax, and who are then hostile to the host country. Like most little countries in the world, the Georgians want all the benefits of being in an organisation like the EU, yet they'd comply with none of the regulations. And all the problems of the world are always the fault of big countries or 'colonialists'...

4 Comments:

At 12:59 AM, Blogger Mini said...

"To be fair to the Russians though, why should they continually put up with a whole raft of illegal workers (who are only there to benefit themselves), paying no tax, and who are then hostile to the host country."

Sounds like another country a lot closer to home doesn't it. Do you have the same feelings about the illegal immigrants in the UK Anton?

 
At 12:00 PM, Blogger anton said...

Having an unknown number of people within a state that the state has no knowledge of cannot be a good thing.

I've never understood the argument NOT to deport illegals when found. If the state has no intention to enforce its own border controls, then what is the point in having any controls in the first place?

 
At 1:09 PM, Blogger Dutch said...

The debate is a little bit more complicated than that mate, but I think you know that already. The problem is one finding them. If they arrive at our ports problem solved. But 2. Once you have them you need to house them with government money whilst going through the legal red tape of asylum seeker status. You know that they will use any avenue to get what they want it just happens to be the human rights card. One of the disadvantage of a liberal democracy. Enforcement is in place as a deterrant and it works, tho costly. The status quo is that we have the controls to restrict the majority while those immogrates that try are processed by our fair laws. Remember, we need 250,000 economic immogrates a year according to national statistics to keep our economy aflowt.

 
At 1:26 PM, Blogger anton said...

We require 250 000 new immigrants a year to keep our economy afloat, that may well be true. But
surely this is only postponing/adding to the problem as we'll start need 500 000 a year to sustain the extra population? Add this to a planning system which is extremely slow to respond to big population shifts, lack of affordable housing, schooling and there will be problems.

No figures seem to take into account the 6% of unemployed people, or another 10-15% who are on long-term sick. And now workers from the new EU countries can work legally in the UK, can the UK not get its extra workers from there if required?

 

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