Cameron
Who?
The new tory leader. People seem to like him, though I don't know who and I don't know why - he hasn't got much going for him:
1) He's a Thatcherite (which will go down really well in some parts of northern England)
2) He’s straight out of the stereotypical ‘Eton-educated-very patronising-likes-hunting’ brigade
3) He’s liberal
4) He’s a wannabe Blair, without the charisma. And I’m not a Blair fan (though the more unpopular Blair has become the more I’ve started to develop more sympathy for him and his predicament.
posted by anton @ 2:56 PM
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9 Comments:
Yes, but Anton we have established there isn't alot about this country that you do like. It's a surprise that you have lasted so long without taking your own life.
With relaxed movement laws around Europe (which now includes many Easten European countries) there are plenty of place that would welcome you with open arms, such as Wales.
:)
The jury's still out for me on Cameron, but I would disagree with your assessment of him.
1) I wouldn't say he's a Thatcherite, Mrs Thatcher stood for a very clear set of principles whether you agreed with them or not. Cameron's principles are less clear. Also, he's not mentioned demolishing any trade unions has he?
2) Nothing wrong with going to Eton in itself. If you come away thinking your better than everyone else simply because of that fact then there is, but I've not seen him ridiculing people who went to state schools or acting intellectually superior with no apprent evidence
3) Nothing wrong with being liberal. If you take it to an extreme then maybe, but as a guiding principle, rather than a "religion", there is nothing wrong with it. It would certainly cause less intolerance if more people were
4) Now this I'd agree with, but then Blair's hardly Labour, so is it Cameron who's in the wrong party or the other way round?
When the student is ready the master will appear and the demise of the current labour lead will undoubtably improve the oppositions standing.
Cameron's charactor that he wishes to display is one of the middle way and a positive approach that things will be better with the conservatives. Their party don't give a shit as long as he's popular because lets face it the conservatives can only now win on the individual leader basis.
People need to judge parties and not individuals on the basis of policy but the manipulation of the media can off set that. The fun part will be when the issue of europe will need addressing and you know Cameron will want to speak about anything other than that.
My personal view is I think Cameron appear like someone how speak good sense but no policies yet. I still like Blair, I always have and I believe that the only decision that he would 'be damed if he did and damed if he didn't' was the issue of invading Iraq. He made the correct decision at the time, you my disagree, the special relationship which has maintained are influnce and nucleur power. Blair can prove he decided on the evidence from the security services but we all know we don't attack those with nucleur weapons and if they had vx gases like they say I wouldn't want our troops going into that, very risky if we didn't take out all the lauch sites.
A bit off topic, but I think given a decade or two history will judge Tony Blair very poorly indeed. I think he's made several key strategic mistakes.
1) Widespread use of PFI will cripple the flexibility of future governments to adapt services like education and NHS as society moves on (most deals are for 25 years), as the service payments will be the FIRST thing out of every departments budgets. What's left will be divided up on "luxury" items like actually having teachers in our schools and nurses in our hospitals (An example is a school in Belfast where the LEA is still paying the service charge of a functioning school, despite the fact that it is closed). In other words, the infrasturcture will be driving the service, not the needs of the tax payers.
2) Mr Blair is trying to commit us to a fresh phase of Nuclear power. I've posted my comments elsewhere about it, but needless to say once we start this programme, there is no going back as the cost would be astronomical.
3) The War in Iraq will carry on indefinitely. The death tolls are actually increasing. Whilst it lasts, the British army is effectively all used up. Our political IOU's from other countries are spent on this issue instead on where they should be spent. North Korea can do what the hell it likes, who's going to stop it now that the US and UK have no option but the extreme use of Nuclear weapons?
Finally, I think the Hutton report proved quiet conclusively that the British population was lied to about Tony Blair's key claim of weapons of mass destruction being ready in 45 minutes. Alistair Campbell and Blair removed every caveat going from the intelligency reports, used every potential worst case as fact. Regardless of the moral case for removing Saddam anyway, the British public (and the rest of the world) were lied to on the reason we went.
Tony Blair is a man who sold some of his principles to get into power, and then gave the rest of them up completely to stay in power. I despise George Bush, but he does seem to stand up for what he believes in... what does Mr Blair stand for?
"what does Mr Blair stand for?"
He can't sit down all day, he'd get pins and needles!
My god people. How boring is this!?
I have a suggestion John. Any post with a serious point we'll assume as standard you've posted a reply with your obligatory "How boring is this." message. That way you don't need to post it everytime. Clear off back to the county message board if you don't like it, nobody asks you to read it :)
I don't think North Korea is much of a danger - it's too poor, isolated and has little support even from their former Russian and Chinese allies.
The big enemies are Iran, Syria and Pakistan all of whom seem to want to export Islamic terrorism. And considering that a sizable proportion of their people are living in western countries, but who's first loyalty is to Islam, it's at least as big a threat as the Cold War.
Ok Shiz, fair enough.
Interesting for what its worth I don't like Tony Blair any more, and I can see David Cameron being the Tory version Blair.
Thats my 2p's worth anyway...
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